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November 29, 2011 at 1:39 am #12217
Can anyone shed some light on the possible age of this piece? It’s in beautiful shape, with excellent enamel. The only marks on it are what appear to be French silver marks (a boar’s head and another indistinct mark, possibly a crab) on the pin.
Dutch Lion knight commander obv 001.jpgNovember 29, 2011 at 1:40 am #15317November 29, 2011 at 1:41 am #15318November 30, 2011 at 5:40 pm #15325paul woodParticipant
It’s definitely a boar’s head and a crab is quite possible (though it is strange that there is a double guarantee mark). My guess as to date is late 19th century (certainly prior to 1905).
All the best,
PaulNovember 30, 2011 at 7:04 pm #15326
I’m not very familiar with marks. But I can ask the question on a Dutch forum. Of course only if I am allowed to use your pictures.December 6, 2011 at 1:47 pm #15336
I don’t get much answers on the Dutch forum. The only answer that I’ve got is that it is an older piece, because there are no "W"’s between the arms of the cross.
today I’ve bought a little book about Dutch gold, silver and platinum marks from 1795 until now. The swine head is only mentioned once in that book:
The swine head is used as a small stamp from 1831 until 1893.
A medium sized head is used from 1831 until 1855.
And two small identical heads together indicates a piece with a chain or another small piece that doesn’t have the possiblity to stamp on it, attached to the piece with mark. These 2 heads are used from 1831 until 1865. The heads indicate a "tax sign".
The book doesn’t mention any sizes, but I think that you have the small head.December 6, 2011 at 3:28 pm #15337
Many thanks. I’ve learned something new today.December 27, 2011 at 10:18 am #15414
Can you identify the small stample? It should be a letter of the normal alphabet (I believe we use the Latin alphabet?). This letter changes every year.
But I can’t identify it. Maybe that you can do it, because you have the real piece.
Many thanks in advance.December 27, 2011 at 1:18 pm #15417
Unfortunately, I don’t have the piece in hand (it’s at my photographers so it can go in our next catalog). I looked at the stamp from every possible angle and never could get my brain to make the image look like anything. At some angles it looks something like the French crab mark, but it simply was never clear enough to identify fully.
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