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July 9, 2011 at 9:01 pm #11976
noor
ParticipantHi all,
Usually I am not very mad about these little unofficial civilian dress decorations but this one some how just was something what I start loving more and more after I received the picture…
Anyway, here it is now in my humble collection, my very first French boutonnière with:
– Médaille militaire (Military Medal)
– Médaille de l’expédition du Mexique. 1862 – 1863 (Mexico Expedition Medal 1862 – 1863)So, how common these are? I especially like this one because Mexico ribbon what I just love now (must find full size medal one good day as well maybe).
Any comments and extra info would be great!
All the best,
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ParticipantInteresting. Maybe very intresting. Have you played the "black light game" with this one? I would like to hear the outcome with the red thread tying it all together (literally?) as well as with the ribbons.
July 9, 2011 at 9:03 pm #13935Frank Dutil
ParticipantNoor… If this puppy is original (testing it as Ed indicated will at least confirm the ribbons’ age), then you hit pay dirt right off the starting block!!
I must admit at being more than bit concerned at how well preserved it is for its age considering how flimzy these were usually held together and also how a white ribbon stayed so white for 150 years… But it looks great.
July 9, 2011 at 9:05 pm #13936noor
ParticipantHere is some pictures of "black light" test…. control modern ribbon next to it clow’s like a Christmas tree, no sign of any sparkles from that little guy. Sorry, room was still a little bright, when I took these shots and I can do better ones but even these will show that the mini ribbons are old.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.July 9, 2011 at 9:06 pm #13937felix
MemberLooks totally legit to me. These boutonnières are not uncommon, it’s possible that this one came directly from the old stock of a tailor shop.
Nice piece.
July 9, 2011 at 9:06 pm #13938danish
ParticipantBlack light trick?
Teach me?July 9, 2011 at 9:08 pm #13939ed_haynes
ParticipantMost modern (post-WWII) dyes and cloth and theads glow under black light. Modern "additions" will stand out like neon lights. For those in collecting areas where such things matter most, a portable battery-powered black light source is a necessary part of the phaleristic toolkit.
July 9, 2011 at 9:08 pm #13940felix
MemberBe aware that if you wash old fabric with modern detergent it will glow like a christmas tree. It’s a good thing but not the ultimate test.
July 9, 2011 at 9:09 pm #13941ed_haynes
ParticipantVery true, but more relevant to uniforms, flags, and such than to ODM.
July 9, 2011 at 9:10 pm #13942Frank Dutil
ParticipantLooks totally legit to me. These boutonnières are not uncommon, it’s possible that this one came directly from the old stock of a tailor shop.
Nice piece.
Well that’s excellent news for Noor!
I wasn’t aware stocks still existed… 150 years later. I’ll have to keep my eyes (and mind) open next time I’m in France.
July 9, 2011 at 9:11 pm #13943felix
MemberOf course, stocks no longer exist, they are now in collectors hands.
July 9, 2011 at 9:12 pm #13944Christophe
ParticipantHi Timo,
Very nice boutonnière !!! I like it !!!
Cheers.
Ch.
July 9, 2011 at 9:13 pm #13945noor
ParticipantThanks Ch Unfortunately it is up on sale now….
……..as my whole collection
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