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    rstrotjost
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    Hello,
    Can anyone identify this breast star? The scalloped designs in the cross arms and the fleur de lis in between, resemble a few of the Italian States stars that I have seen. But, the center which appears to be a Madonna and Child, I have not found any where. Belgium jeweler maker is "G.Wolfers" in Brussels. Thank you, Rick Strotjost, OMSA #6669[attachment=0]DSC05269_edited-1.JPG[/attachment][attachment=1]DSC05267_edited-1.JPG[/attachment][attachment=2]DSC05268_edited-1.JPG[/attachment]
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    #16864
    rstrotjost
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    Any theories, opinions, or SWAGs? Still have had no luck identifying this star. Thank you, Rick

    #16858
    Frank Dutil
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    The plaque itself is from an old royal order from France, either St-Louis or St-Esprit. The center though makes no sense… It’s as if somebody took a partial or damaged part of an order and just slapped a new central medallion on it.

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    #17157
    rstrotjost
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    Thank you Frank, I am sorry I did not see your reply sooner, to respond. Best regards, Richard

    #17158
    rstrotjost
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    I forgot to mention in the post, that it is in it’s original case of issue, with makers name in the inside of the lid. The center medallion is fitted to the center of the plaque perfectly and has the same patina as the rest of the piece. Doesn’t look like a hap hazard replacement.
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    #17184
    Frank Dutil
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    A French colleague suggests this is possibly the Order of Notre Dame du Mont Carmel, a pre-1789 French order. I can’t find anything to support that but it might prove a good starting point.

    Cheers!

    #17187
    rstrotjost
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    Thank you Frank, I appreciate your help! Best regards, Richard

    #17191
    fred j borgmann
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    To me the key here is that the Madonna is holding a sword instead of the usual scepter. My guess would be that this is a privately made religious ephemeral order.

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