My first French boutonnière

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  • #11976

    noor
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    Hi all,

    Usually I am not very mad about these little unofficial civilian dress decorations but this one some how just was something what I start loving more and more after I received the picture…

    Anyway, here it is now in my humble collection, my very first French boutonnière with:

    – Médaille militaire (Military Medal)
    – Médaille de l’expédition du Mexique. 1862 – 1863 (Mexico Expedition Medal 1862 – 1863)

    So, how common these are? I especially like this one because Mexico ribbon what I just love now (must find full size medal one good day as well maybe).

    Any comments and extra info would be great!

    All the best,

    Timo
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    #13934

    ed_haynes
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    Interesting. Maybe very intresting. Have you played the "black light game" with this one? I would like to hear the outcome with the red thread tying it all together (literally?) as well as with the ribbons.

    #13935

    Frank Dutil
    Participant

    Noor… If this puppy is original (testing it as Ed indicated will at least confirm the ribbons’ age), then you hit pay dirt right off the starting block!!

    I must admit at being more than bit concerned at how well preserved it is for its age considering how flimzy these were usually held together and also how a white ribbon stayed so white for 150 years… But it looks great.

    #13936

    noor
    Participant

    Here is some pictures of "black light" test…. control modern ribbon next to it clow’s like a Christmas tree, no sign of any sparkles from that little guy. Sorry, room was still a little bright, when I took these shots and I can do better ones but even these will show that the mini ribbons are old.
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    #13937

    felix
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    Looks totally legit to me. These boutonnières are not uncommon, it’s possible that this one came directly from the old stock of a tailor shop.

    Nice piece.

    #13938

    danish
    Participant

    Black light trick?
    Teach me?

    #13939

    ed_haynes
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    Most modern (post-WWII) dyes and cloth and theads glow under black light. Modern "additions" will stand out like neon lights. For those in collecting areas where such things matter most, a portable battery-powered black light source is a necessary part of the phaleristic toolkit.

    #13940

    felix
    Member

    Be aware that if you wash old fabric with modern detergent it will glow like a christmas tree. It’s a good thing but not the ultimate test.

    #13941

    ed_haynes
    Participant

    Very true, but more relevant to uniforms, flags, and such than to ODM.

    #13942

    Frank Dutil
    Participant

    Looks totally legit to me. These boutonnières are not uncommon, it’s possible that this one came directly from the old stock of a tailor shop.

    Nice piece.

    Well that’s excellent news for Noor!

    I wasn’t aware stocks still existed… 150 years later. I’ll have to keep my eyes (and mind) open next time I’m in France.

    #13943

    felix
    Member

    Of course, stocks no longer exist, they are now in collectors hands.

    #13944

    christophe
    Member

    Hi Timo,

    Very nice boutonnière !!! I like it !!!

    Cheers.

    Ch.

    #13945

    noor
    Participant

    Thanks Ch Unfortunately it is up on sale now….

    ……..as my whole collection :(

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